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  1. Boxing styles

    There are four generally accepted boxing styles that are used to define fighters. These are the swarmer, out-boxer, slugger, and boxer-puncher. Many boxers do not always fit into these categories, and it's not uncommon for a fighter to change their style over a period of time. Swarmer The swarmer (in-fighter, crowder) is a fighter who attempts to overwhelm his opponent by applying constant pressure — taking away an opponent's spacing and timing. Swarmers tend to have a very good bob and weave, good power, a good chin, and a tremendous punch output (resulting in a great need for stamina and conditioning). This style favors closing inside an opponent, overwhelming them with intensity and flurries of hooks and uppercuts. They tend to be fast on their feet which can make them difficult to evade for a slower fighter; or are great at cutting the ring with precise footwork. They also tend to have a good "chin" because this style usually involves being hit with many jabs before they can maneuver inside where they are more effective.[1]Many swarmers are often either shorter fighters or fighters with shorter reaches, especially in the heavier classes, that have to get in close to be effective. Tommy Burns was the shortest Heavyweight champion at 5'7, while Rocky Marciano had the shortest reach at 67-68 inches. One exception is Jack Dempsey, who was nearly 6'1 with a 77-inch reach. Famous swarmers include Henry Armstrong, Carmen Basilio, Nigel Benn, Melio Bettina,[2] Burns, Joe Calzaghe, Julio Cesar Chavez, Steve Collins, Jack Dempsey, Joe Frazier, Kid Gavilan, Gennady Golovkin, Román González, Harry Greb, Emile Griffith, Fighting Harada, Ricky Hatton, Jake LaMotta, Rocky Marciano, Terry McGovern,[3] Sam McVey, Battling Nelson, Bobo Olson, Manuel Ortiz, Floyd Patterson, Aaron Pryor, Alexander Povetkin, Sailor Tom Sharkey, David Tua, Mike Tyson, Micky Ward, Wilfredo Gomez and Mickey Walker. Slugger Most sluggers lack mobility in the ring and may have difficulty pursuing fighters who are fast on their feet. They usually throw harder, slower punches than swarmers or out-boxers and tend to ignore combination punching. Sluggers often throw predictable punching patterns (single punches with obvious leads) which can leave them open for counterpunching.[1] Sluggers can also be fast and unpredictable fighters, such as the case with Terry McGovern, Stanley Ketchel, and Rocky Graziano. While normally considered the most crude boxers, Bob Fitzsimmons was considered by many boxing historians to be highly scientific in his slugging techniques. Because of their similar brawling tactics, swarmers and sluggers are often confused with each other, and some fighters may fit into either category. Famous sluggers include Max Baer, Paul Berlenbach, Riddick Bowe, Fitzsimmons, George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Bob Foster,[6] Gene Fullmer, Ceferino Garcia, Arturo Gatti, Wilfredo Gomez, Graziano, Al Hostak, James J. Jeffries, Ingemar Johansson, Ketchel, Vitali Klitschko, Ron Lyle, Freddie Mills, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Ricardo Mayorga, Ruslan Provodnikov, Earnie Shavers, John L. Sullivan, Barbados Joe Walcott, Anne Sophie Mathis, Vonda Ward and Ann Wolfe.[5] Fictional characters Rocky Balboa and Clubber Lang are considered to be sluggers. Out-boxer The out-boxer (out-fighter, boxer) is the opposite of the swarmer. The out-boxer seeks to maintain a gap from their opponent and fight with faster, longer range punches. Out-boxers are known for being extremely quick on their feet, which often makes up for a lack of power. Since they rely on the weaker jabs and straights (as opposed to hooks and uppercuts), they tend to win by points decisions rather than by knockout, although some out-boxers can be aggressive and effective punchers.[1] Out-boxers such as Benny Leonard, Gene Tunney, Muhammad Ali, and Larry Holmes have many notable knockouts, but usually preferred to wear down their opponents and outclass them rather than just knock them out. Out-boxers also cross over frequently with counter-punch and/or swarming techniques, such as Naseem Hamed, who used his speed on his feet to avoid injury and his precision and power to carve his opponents down. Notable out-boxers include Ali, Wilfred Benitez, Cecilia Brækhus, Ezzard Charles, Kid Chocolate, Billy Conn, James J. Corbett, George Dixon, Chris Eubank, Tiger Flowers, Mike Gibbons, Holly Holm, Larry Holmes, Harold Johnson, Jack Johnson, Junior Jones, Zab Judah, Herol Graham, Erislandy Lara, Leonard, Tommy Loughran, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Willie Pep, Maxie Rosenbloom, Barney Ross, Michael Spinks, Tunney, Jersey Joe Walcott, Wladimir Klitschko, Hughie Fury and Pernell Whitaker.[5] The fictional character Apollo Creed is considered an out-boxer. Boxer-puncher The boxer-puncher possesses many of the qualities of the out-boxer; hand speed, often an outstanding jab, combination and/or counter-punching skills, better defense and accuracy than a slugger, while possessing slugger type power. The Boxer-puncher may also be more willing to fight in an aggressive swarmer-style than an out-boxer. In general the boxer-puncher lacks the mobility and defensive expertise of the pure boxer. Boxer-punchers usually do well against out-boxers, especially if they can match their speed and mobility. They also tend to match up well against swarmers, because the extra power often discourages the swarmer's aggression. Boxer-punchers can be hard to categorize since they can be closer in style to a slugger, swarmer, or an out-boxer. Notable boxer-punchers include Laila Ali, Alexis Arguello, Marco Antonio Barrera, Tony Canzoneri, Marcel Cerdan, Oscar De La Hoya, Roberto Duran, Joe Gans, Tommy Gibbons,[7] Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, Bernard Hopkins, Evander Holyfield, Eder Jofre, Roy Jones, Jr., Sam Langford, Sugar Ray Leonard, Lennox Lewis, Anthony Joshua, Ricardo Lopez, Azumah Nelson, Vasyl Lomachenko, Joe Louis, Christy Martin, Carlos Monzon, Archie Moore, Erik Morales, Jose Napoles, Manny Pacquiao, Sugar Ray Robinson, Luis Manuel Rodríguez,[8] Sandy Saddler, Carlos Zarate Serna, Freddie Steele,[9] James Toney, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Ike Williams, Jimmy Wilde, Kostya Tszyu and Tony Zale. . Sub-styles and other categories Counterpuncher A counterpuncher utilizes techniques that require the opposing boxer to make a mistake, and then capitalizing on that mistake. A skilled counterpuncher can utilize such techniques as winning rounds with the jab or psychological tactics to entice an opponent to fall into an aggressive style that will exhaust him and leave him open for counterpunches. For these reasons this form of boxing balances defense and offense but can lead to severe damage if the boxer who utilizes this technique has bad reflexes or isn't quick enough. Notable counterpunchers are Canelo Álvarez, Andre Berto, Timothy Bradley, Charley Burley, Floyd Mayweather, Marvin Hagler, Andre Ward, Bernard Hopkins, Vitali Klitschko, Evander Holyfield, Hector Camacho, Juan Manuel Márquez, Archie Moore, Jerry Quarry, Salvador Sanchez, Max Schmeling, Dick Tiger, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Azumah Nelson, Tony Canzoneri, Terence Crawford, Gennady Golovkin, Wilfred Benitez and James Toney. Southpaw A southpaw fights at a left‐handed fighting stance as opposed to an orthodox fighter who fights right‐handed. Orthodox fighters lead and jab from their left side, and southpaw fighters will jab and lead from their right side. Orthodox fighters hook more with their left and cross more with their right, and vice versa for southpaw fighters. Some naturally right-handed fighters (such as Marvin Hagler and Michael Moorer)[11][12] have converted to southpaw in the past to offset their opponents. Famous southpaws include Melio Bettina, Ruslan Chagaev, Tiger Flowers, Hagler, Naseem Hamed, Zab Judah, Moorer, Manny Pacquiao, Sergio Martínez, Tarver, Pernell Whitaker, Joe Calzaghe, Hector Camacho and Winky Wright. In Rocky (film series), Rocky Balboa and Clubber Lang are southpaws, as well as Mason Dixon who is played by actual light‐heavyweight southpaw Antonio Tarver. Fictional character Billy "The Great" Hope used a southpaw uppercut to knock down Miguel Escobar in his comeback fight in the film Southpaw. Switch-Hitter A switch-hitter switches back and forth between a right-handed (orthodox) stance and a left-handed (southpaw) stance on purpose to confuse their opponents in a fight. Right-handed boxers would train in the left-handed (southpaw) stance, while southpaws would train in a right-handed (orthodox) stance, gaining the ability to switch back and forth after much training. A truly ambidextrous boxer can naturally fight in the switch-hitter style without as much training. Notable switch-hitters include Andre Ward, Terence Crawford, Kelly Pavlik, Marvin Hagler, Carmen Basilio, Marco Antonio Barrera, Winky Wright, Joe Calzaghe, Michael Moorer, Miguel Cotto and Tyson Fury.
  2. Boxing styles

    a 40 year old Mayweather was less , but not to fit your argument eh
  3. Boxing styles

    Said worthy mija , historians say the same . Post up Bradleys great win with that must see score card lmao then we can jump to horn pac another loss for pac according to mr bullshit afraid to see that cluster fuck card . Poor Pac joshybullshit got him losing everytime , must be personal
  4. Boxing styles

    you should score that great victory you claim gets bradley in the hall of fame against pac
  5. Boxing styles

    No worse then chocolatito being labeled a slugger
  6. Boxing styles

    posting mamadas doesnt make you look any more stupid than normal , its expected
  7. Boxing styles

    Lucky for you your too yellow to speak on a microphone cause i would school you in real time epically
  8. Boxing styles

    You keep saying what i thought , mija i know every style , you called Roman a slugger repeatedly not me , the fact you keep trying spin in it PROVES your way the fuk off give it a break your boring , i been schooling you ass for years with ease just like I have again i look forward to your little thread once you grow some hair on your vagina you'll post it ? List your criteria mija
  9. Boxing styles

    feel free to add it , look forward to your fight scoring thread
  10. Boxing styles

    listen to your self spin Only point I make very clearly is you have no idea wtf your talking about I aint trying to make slugger into anything , maybe Ring had chocolatito P4P number 1 for almost 2 years because he was Latino too right?

    nice I dont remember and I will coach myself all signs kovs run might be over
  12. Boxing styles

    yea brah whatevs , btw its not some recent article I read this shit years ago because when you read you learn , try it out sometime.
  13. Boxing styles

    uh no you didnt you called Roman a SLUGGER REPEATEDLY which implies he lacks mobility in the ring and ignores combination punching . Chocolatito has a very good bob and weave, good power, a good chin, and a tremendous punch output , which most SLUGGERS do not and you suggesting so PROVES my point yet again but ofc you cant admit your off base on a fighter you hardly know nice spin attempt with " this whole time" you NEVER ONCE called him a pressure anything REPEATEDLY called him a SLUGGER I wouldnt have called you out if you called him a pressure guy BOOOOOOOOOOOOO YA
  14. Official GGG vs Canelo prediction thread

    man if i missed it i might have to take whatever point your making cause i cant listen to that music again . slipping its called yea slipping and rolling yea
  15. Official GGG vs Canelo prediction thread

    title sez elastic waist , not bending , nice music tho
  16. Official GGG vs Canelo prediction thread

    thats a defensive video to show his" running" not his offense sure theres plenty landing videos . for 100 plus years of boxing its been called slipping but now when ginger does it its bending like its a bitch move
  17. Aldo said. “Conor doesn’t have good cardio, and (they) knew he’s not used to boxing. Mayweather was closed up, just waiting for the time to pounce. The guy hadn’t fought for two years. “A lot of people talk a lot of crap, like, ‘Oh, he landed many more blows than (Manny) Pacquiao or (Miguel) Cotto and everyone.’ But no one says that (Mayweather) didn’t fight for two years. He didn’t even prepare for the fight. He knew, like everyone at the gym said, that it would be very hard (for McGregor to win) – very, very hard.” Aldo said. “Moral? First of all, you try to prove that with someone who’s almost 41, who’s been away (from the sport). Of course, it was a money fight. A moral victory would have been taking on an active boxer, a champion, and then fought him. And then you’d see how he would barely last a round. Because it’s an entirely different sport. We need to put ourselves in our places.
  18. Official GGG vs Canelo prediction thread

    I totally agree just the fact that it even made it to the judges has been butt wrenching to those who said ginger would be murdered at the sound of the first bell
  19. Official GGG vs Canelo prediction thread

    I gave GGG the 1st rd myself and all 3 judges gave canelo 11th which I had even so when i decide to rewatch it I will check those 2 rds a bit harder I hate to score even rds but GGG did something in the 11th that got my attention
  20. Official GGG vs Canelo prediction thread

    Canelo's stamina betrayed him like it normally does a little more punching in the middle rounds he might have won , GGGs jab was scoring well as Canelo allowed himself on the ropes where he was slipping the right hand easily but punching in spurts . Think all the hayemakers and bouncing with the weight cost him . I see all 3 judges gave canelo 11th rd I had it even maybe canelo did earn draw . I had GGG 6-5-1
  21. Official GGG vs Canelo prediction thread

    Always know the scores will be opposite lederman and byrd they suck ass
  22. Official GGG vs Canelo prediction thread

    Shit joshy bullshit was trying to give me shit because i wasnt picking ko he guaranteed ko along with mex and neil Nobody in boxing has faced more styles than canelo and aside from mayweather you could argue he won every one , disrespect needs to stop
  23. Apple's iPhone 8 - Coming September 12

    Heard the camera is amazing built for people like you , the 3D moving emojis you can use over facial scan looks fun