blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 www.boxingscene.com Former WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (46-1-1, 32KOs) is holding firm on his promise to remove his father, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., from all future training camps. During Chavez's last camp, for Sergio Martinez last September, there was tension between the two of them. Chavez suffered the first loss of his career. Last year, Chavez Jr. said there issues because his father was giving him advice that was conflicting with the instructions coming from his trainer, Freddie Roach."My father will no longer be in my corner. We've agreed to see each other only once a week, because it is very difficult to keep that type of relationship and be a family at the same time. Therefore he will no longer be in my camps with me. He will never stop being my father, but this is something that we feel will be a positive thing to move my career forward," Chavez Jr. said to TeleMex.Chavez returns on September 7th at Staples Center in Los Angeles and faces Brian Vera. Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 smoking weed with cereal lunches is ok by me just not for a world level fighter Jr is just a spoiled kid not anything great in the ring Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 spoiled in the sense dad set him up for life, hard to follow those foot steps but blowing off training and being lazy is on him Russell feels entitled true but worked much harder to achieve Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Chavez sr is one of the greatest fighters of my era , but being rican I hated leather face , guess Jr rubs me wrong because of dad Quote
Mofo2 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Can't say he is wrong to exclude his father if he is disruptive to the training routine! Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Can't say he is wrong to exclude his father if he is disruptive to the training routine!Freddy the dope coach said Sr was the only reason he stayed and wasn't any problems in training Quote
Mofo2 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Freddy the dope coach said Sr was the only reason he stayed and wasn't any problems in training Depends....one mans ok is another mans problem! Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Depends....one mans ok is another mans problem!stayed as in Roach staying understood tho Jr wants distance from daddy , allows him to spoke his ganja more freely. Jr smoking enuff dope to make ariza his trainer it seems , lets see how that works Quote
Mofo2 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 stayed as in Roach staying understood tho Jr wants distance from daddy , allows him to spoke his ganja more freely. Jr smoking enuff dope to make ariza his trainer it seems , lets see how that worksHis old man will no doubt be disciplined, you don't achieve what he did in his career without it, but new generations simply will evolve methods....maybe he is considered out dated by Jnr when it comes to training? Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 His old man will no doubt be disciplined, you don't achieve what he did in his career without it, but new generations simply will evolve methods....maybe he is considered out dated by Jnr when it comes to training?but he wasn't training Jr , Roach was. guess those shoes were getting larger to fill by the fight? fairness to Jr its a pressure I wouldn't want Quote
Mofo2 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 but he wasn't training Jr , Roach was. guess those shoes were getting larger to fill by the fight? fairness to Jr its a pressure I wouldn't wantYou know the score...picture the scenario....The old man enters the gymn, he is there 5 minutes and realisese he has forgotten more than half of them know about preparing to fight and he starts to Suggest things, then he starts to point out flaws in Jnr, then he starts to question how and why he is doing certain drills, then he starts getting a little vocal, then he insists changes need making, then yadda yadda yaddaSeems plausible to me the next thing on the list would be next he gets on everyone's tits, because lets face it things cant have been all roses whilst he was there otherwise why the ban? Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 You know the score...picture the scenario....The old man enters the gymn, he is there 5 minutes and realisese he has forgotten more than half of them know about preparing to fight and he starts to Suggest things, then he starts to point out flaws in Jnr, then he starts to question how and why he is doing certain drills, then he starts getting a little vocal, then he insists changes need making, then yadda yadda yaddaSeems plausible to me the next thing on the list would be next he gets on everyone's tits, because lets face it things cant have been all roses whilst he was there otherwise why the ban?but Roach said that wasn't the scenario , my guess its more the ringside coaching that bothers Jr Quote
Mofo2 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 but Roach said that wasn't the scenario , my guess its more the ringside coaching that bothers JrMaybe daddio took the inbetween sparring session doughnuts away Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Jr has claimed he saw his dad drink and do drugs, clearly he has daddy issues, it really might be as simple as you did it don't tell me not to do it.good point Quote
Mofo2 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Jr has claimed he saw his dad drink and do drugs, clearly he has daddy issues, it really might be as simple as you did it don't tell me not to do it.yeah it's like he hasn't had drug issues himself, squeaky clean and all Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 yeah it's like he hasn't had drug issues himself, squeaky clean and all seems you miss read his post Quote
Mofo2 Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Damn I never understood a word Freddie said, he has gone seriously slurred Quote
blackrican23 Posted July 24, 2013 Author Posted July 24, 2013 Freddie said he found out Jr fired him when the interviewer told him Quote
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