Mofo2 320 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 WBA super middleweight champion Andre Ward (26-0, 14 KO’s) says that unbeaten, #1 WBC, #3 WBA, #3 IBF, #6 WBO, Edwin Rodriguez (24-0, 16 KO’s) wants $1 million plus in order for Ward to face him in what would be pretty much little more than a high caliber tune-up bout on HBO. Ward says his team already gave Rodriguez a perfectly reasonable offer, which wasn’t far from what Rodriguez’s team wants, but it was turned down. Rodriguez won’t get the $1 million plus that he’s asking for, says Ward.Ward told RingTV “We put up a number, and the number is more than Rodriguez made in his last fight, and it’s more than he’s made in his whole career, and it’s a good number. But his team is asking for $1 million plus, and that’s just not going to happen.â€Read more at http://www.boxingnews24.com/2013/08/andre-ward-edwin-rodriguezs-team-is-asking-for-1-million-plus-for-fight/#fjUUGFScE66bZuTq.99 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 3 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Seems like Edwin's ego has become too big for his good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 anything between $300-500K Rodriquez should be all over it , if wards offer is closer to 700K$ then its a no brainer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM 679 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Look blokes it's really simple, these guys are bidding/expecting high for a reason. let me give you a simple example. If I am selling an item, the item's worth to me is $10. dollars, so I am going to ask for $15. knowing $10 will work but I raise the price just a bit, Interested party make me an offer of $13. I knowing all I want is $10. accept the offer and make an extra $3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo2 320 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Agreed thats how it works G, however in this case he is worth the bucks, Ward will make 2/3 times more! so what is wrong with him wanting a bigger slice of the Pie? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 In boxing you have to have leverage to pull the okey doke . Usually networks are spending X amount of dollars period , can a fighter get a few more bucks ? rarely unless they have leverage... the split is 70-30 for champion usually if you have some barging power maybe 60/40 what exactly has Rodriquez done to get a million dollar purse? if his 30% is 1 mill then wards 70% is 2.5 mil , does anybody think HBO is paying 3.5 million for Ward vs Rodriquez? this is not some department store merchandise or swap meet when your selling X for 15 but will take 10 but are shooting 13 , you still have to prove the products worth to get any amount for it , in boxing the value already has been determined does anybody have a figure of what Stevens ended up getting for GGG after turning down 300K? Stevens had a LITTLE bit of leverage coming off a tv KO and engaging in the calling out and negotiations all with in days. how much more than his worth did it get him? Rodriquez last fight , Grachev, very good win possibly best of Rodriquez career , who saw it?( Of course I did ) Rodriquez last 4 tv fights were snoozers , who the hell would pay him a million ? the number is more than Rodriguez made in his last fight, and it’s more than he’s made in his whole career I am all for getting as much money as you can , but when the offers is too good to begin with and then you started balking to a point of turning it down is a joke, I mean if you make 700K and lose to Ward is your career over? hardly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo2 320 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 You gotta believe your worth in fights and hold out for the right deal, it's not as though he is turning down multi millions! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 You gotta believe your worth in fights and hold out for the right deal, it's not as though he is turning down multi millions!hes turning down the biggest payday of his career , with 2 very sick kids at home. can he make a million against ANY fighter besides Ward ? Nope but If he beats Ward THEN your making the money, seems 700k is the right deal , actually 500k is too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM 679 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Keep in mind the figures stated are not the final in his bank account figures, he has to pay taxes, his team etc, so in order to truly get the offered amount in the bank one must ask for more.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo2 320 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 hes turning down the biggest payday of his career , with 2 very sick kids at home. can he make a million against ANY fighter besides Ward ? nope If he beats Ward THEN your making the money, seems 700k is the right deal , actually 500k is tooIt all comes down to what an individual sees as fair, obviously he feels with two men in the ring that 3/4 times more than himself isn't a good deal! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Keep in mind the figures stated are not the final in his bank account figures, he has to pay taxes, his team etc, so in order to truly get the offered amount in the bank one must ask for more..same goes for the A side fighter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 It all comes down to what an individual sees as fair, obviously he feels with two men in the ring that 3/4 times more than himself isn't a good deal!see that's it to determine fairness you see what other more established guys were paid against ward , like this for example Purses for the main event: Andre Ward $900,000 and Froch $600,000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo2 320 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 That was two years back, Ward and Froch both generate more money now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 That was two years back, Ward and Froch both generate more money now!that has nothing to do with Edwin Rodriquez , a few years back Froch / Ward was a 1.5 mill unification match and tournament championship , what does Rodriquez bring that he should be getting a million just himself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM 679 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 That was two years back, Ward and Froch both generate more money now! Agreed! the cost of living 3 years ago was different as opposed to the current. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I think you guys think everybody gets big money and sums of 300-500-700k aren't nothing special , chump change per say Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Agreed! the cost of living 3 years ago was different as opposed to the current.what does that have to do with what Rodriquez brings to the table? so just based on what you said 700k ( if that's the offer) is more than adjusted for cost of living nowdays Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ward barely got a over a million against dawson in his last fight 1,367,500 Dawson was reigning light heavy weight champ , a hell of a lot bigger name then Rodriquez with a lot more to bring to the table got ?????? 600,000 K silly to be defending Rodriquez asking a mill plus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo2 320 Posted September 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ward barely got a over a million against dawson in his last fight 1,367,500 Dawson was reigning light heavy weight champ , a hell of a lot bigger name then Rodriquez with a lot more to bring to the table got ?????? 600,000 K silly to be defending Rodriquez asking a mill plus It aint silly at all, revenues in boxing change frequently so comparing is he last thing it is sensible to do! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Agreed thats how it works G, however in this case he is worth the bucks, Ward will make 2/3 times more! so what is wrong with him wanting a bigger slice of the Pie?its called pricing yourself out VERY common in boxing so tell me what has Rodriquez done that makes him worth a million dollar payday again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 It aint silly at all, revenues in boxing change frequently so comparing is he last thing it is sensible to do!yes it is very silly we have said fighter, see said fighters accomplishments, see other fighters that bought more into fights with Ward and what the value was stop trying to blanket it as ' boxing" the thread is specific about which fighter is involved Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo2 320 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 yes it is very silly we have said fighter, see said fighters accomplishments, see other fighters that bought more into fights with Ward and what the value was stop trying to blanket it as ' boxing" the thread is specific about which fighter is involvedThese issues occur with other fighters also, besides this is a boxing forum that discusses boxing topics, since when have we Been that rigid that a point cannot be expanded on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 don't understand your logicthe thread was about Edwin Rodriquez , you posted that he deserved the pay day , so when pressed about why he does , your now talking about other fighters? and discussion? you cant even discuss said fighter who is asking for million dollarsmaybe topic should have been about all fighters surely we all agree every fighter deserves the best offer , but not a lot of guys turning down 600-700K paydays when its fair moneymaybe we shouldn't have threads about any specific topic/person at all and just ramble on to hear yourself ramble , that's real discussion at a boxing forum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM 679 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Uhhhhhhhhh! you blokes need to recall this thread I made a few moons back >> Click it << Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo2 320 Posted September 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Uhhhhhhhhh! you blokes need to recall this thread I made a few moons back >> Click it <<Doesnt make a difference G....Rodriguez is supposed to lie down and take it up the ass, because he had the audacity to ask for a million bucks! The guy is an unbeaten fighter that's putting himself on the line against one of the top p4p fighters in the World but it seems any offer made he should take in some peep eyes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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