Hitman 1 Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 does arguello beat PBF? in a 15 round fight? he has a chance late in the match imo. Arguello was a masterful FIFTEEEN round fighter, meaning he knew how to fight a full 15 rounds and he used rounds 13, 14 and 15 maybe more than any fighter I've seen before or since. he woulda sacrificed rounds early and middle of the fight investing in body punches and with the razor blades in his gloves, what if he cuts Floyd and that fucks with Floyd's entire defensive strategy with compromised vision??? Floyd is ahead thru 12 rounds, Arguello would pour it on late, maybe he would win the fight late, maybe he wouldn;'t... but i think Floyd holds on for dear life in the late part of the match. I'd take Floyd UD tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 understood , thought you took him in the head to head match-up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted May 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Well they way I see it Floyd has a master plan, his plan is to set a major record in boxing, he wants to be 50 | 0. Once and if he does that he beats the old record and cements his place in history. That amount of wins backed with 0 losses is a rare in boxing. If and when this has been accomplished my answer to your question will be The greatest boxer of the universe Sugar Ray Robinson ,was 128-1-2 before he suffered his second defeat and he beat enough Hall of Famers to fill a football team is without question, the greatest fighter who ever lived. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hitman 1 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Sugar Ray Robinson ,was 128-1-2 before he suffered his second defeat and he beat enough Hall of Famers to fill a football team is without question, the greatest fighter who ever lived. AMEN, Rican. But I think there is something to Mayweather's strategy, if that's what it is. I am not certain if the U.S. boxing fan populace is as educated as it used to be. That zero is worth a lot imo. We have people on the local radio whoi say Pacquiao is finished and that Brandon Rios is going to knock him out in China. That's just ludicrous imo, after ONE LOSS. ONE LOSS Pacquaio is finished. It's a damn good thing Lennox, Holyfield, Duran, Leonard, Hearns and every other great fighter in the history of the sport didn't read into that notion... one loss (even a KO loss) does not mean you are finished or that your entire career is bogus. But that's what many people here think these days. That's my perception of it, at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM 673 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 It is my "opinion" that it is not the simple number "0" representing the amount of times a fighter has lost a bout. It is specific to the individual, in this case we are discussing What is Mayweather's zero worth? Key word "Mayweather's" So then:Sugar Ray Robinson ,was 128-1-2 before he suffered his second defeatDoes not apply even in a simple reference. Back to the point now:Mayweather's "0" and it's worth to me is not only based upon the statistical number, his arrogance, cockiness, and the fact that he is disliked my most and their only interest in him and watching his fights is in hope of him loosing the most specious and coveted "0" the previous mentioned is what really puts the "worth" on his 0. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackrican23 306 Posted May 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 It is my "opinion" that it is not the simple number "0" representing the amount of times a fighter has lost a bout. It is specific to the individual, in this case we are discussing What is Mayweather's zero worth? Key word "Mayweather's" So then:Does not apply even in a simple reference. Back to the point now:Mayweather's "0" and it's worth to me is not only based upon the statistical number, his arrogance, cockiness, and the fact that he is disliked my most and their only interest in him and watching his fights is in hope of him loosing the most specious and coveted "0" the previous mentioned is what really puts the "worth" on his 0. Oh totally understood it's your opinion G, just my pick for best in the universe, and just my opinion as well without question this is the most valuable 0 outta the handful who have retired unbeaten. todays generation has an obsession with " the Unbeaten". Guys don't fight a lot like they did years ago , a guy fighting 4 times a month would never be expected to win them all , so maybe the guys that fight less nowdays are expected to preform to higher standards. PBF is viewed as the best , and criticized for not having that high level of quality opposition, a foil so to speak, yet he has beaten more HOF guys than anyone we can think of. did PBF avoid that having that foil? I don't believe that , but it sure would be nice to see Tszyu and Pacquiao in that 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM 673 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 PBF is viewed as the best , and criticized for not having that high level of quality opposition, a foil so to speak, yet he has beaten more HOF guys than anyone we can think of. Yes he is criticized but the critics are the haters! Every one that he has stepped into the right to box against has or had the chance to beat him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mexfighter 141 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 a wise man once said that people who use the term "haters" are people who can't handle criticism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRIM 673 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 An wiser man once said that when one has haters that usually means one is doing very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo2 320 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 A wise man once said don't eat yellow snow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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